Week 5, 2035

played in Green Bay, WI

36 degrees, rain, 2 mph wind

New Orleans Saints	14	3	10	3	-	30
Green Bay Packers	0	7	3	7	-	17

Scoring Summary
1Q: 10:04 NOS - Ja'Marr Chase 10 pass from Trevor Lawrence (Wally Banks extra point)
1Q: 05:11 NOS - Geoff Weese 6 pass from Trevor Lawrence (Wally Banks extra point)
2Q: 07:20 GBY - Darius Gomez 12 pass from Kaleb Small (Clayton Jacobs extra point)
2Q: 02:00 NOS - Wally Banks 37 field goal
3Q: 10:31 GBY - Clayton Jacobs 28 field goal
3Q: 07:25 NOS - Mario McConnell 13 pass from Trevor Lawrence (Wally Banks extra point)
3Q: 02:18 NOS - Wally Banks 42 field goal
4Q: 11:41 NOS - Wally Banks 44 field goal
4Q: 07:43 GBY - Keegan Lincoln 6 pass from Kaleb Small (Clayton Jacobs extra point)

Scoring Summary
1Q: 10:04 NOS - Ja'Marr Chase 10 pass from Trevor Lawrence (Wally Banks extra point)
1Q: 05:11 NOS - Geoff Weese 6 pass from Trevor Lawrence (Wally Banks extra point)
2Q: 07:20 GBY - Darius Gomez 12 pass from Kaleb Small (Clayton Jacobs extra point)
2Q: 02:00 NOS - Wally Banks 37 field goal
3Q: 10:31 GBY - Clayton Jacobs 28 field goal
3Q: 07:25 NOS - Mario McConnell 13 pass from Trevor Lawrence (Wally Banks extra point)
3Q: 02:18 NOS - Wally Banks 42 field goal
4Q: 11:41 NOS - Wally Banks 44 field goal
4Q: 07:43 GBY - Keegan Lincoln 6 pass from Kaleb Small (Clayton Jacobs extra point)

Team Statistics NOS GBY
Record 5-0 2-3
First Downs 22 19
- by Rushing 8 1
- by Passing 12 18
- by Penalty 2 0
Total Net Yards 385 341
- Offensive Plays 60 63
- Yards per Play 6.42 5.41
Net Rushing Yards 158 59
- Rushing Attempts 32 9
- Yards per Rush 4.94 6.56
Net Passing Yards 227 282
- Att./Comp./Intrcpt 28 - 21 - 0 49 - 33 - 0
- Gross Passing Yards 227 315
- Sacks/Yards Lost 0/0 5/33
- Yards per Pass Play 8.11 5.22
Fumbles/Lost 0/0 2/1
3rd Down Conversions 6/12 6/14
- Avg. YtG on 3rd Down 8.3 10.9
4th Down Conversions 0/0 2/3
Penalties/Yards 4/37 8/53
Punt Returns/Yards 2/18 0/0
Kick Returns/Yards 2/57 5/87
Interception Ret./Yards 0/0 0/0
2pt Conversions 0/0 0/0
Red Zone Visits 3 4
- Red Zone TDs/FGs 3/0 2/1
Avg. Drive Start OWN 32 OWN 25
Time of Possession 33:09 26:51

Team Statistics	NOS	GBY
Record	5-0	2-3
First Downs	22	19
- by Rushing	8	1
- by Passing	12	18
- by Penalty	2	0
Total Net Yards	385	341
- Offensive Plays	60	63
- Yards per Play	6.42	5.41
Net Rushing Yards	158	59
- Rushing Attempts	32	9
- Yards per Rush	4.94	6.56
Net Passing Yards	227	282
- Att./Comp./Intrcpt	28 - 21 - 0	49 - 33 - 0
- Gross Passing Yards	227	315
- Sacks/Yards Lost	0/0	5/33
- Yards per Pass Play	8.11	5.22
Fumbles/Lost	0/0	2/1
3rd Down Conversions	6/12	6/14
- Avg. YtG on 3rd Down	8.3	10.9
4th Down Conversions	0/0	2/3
Penalties/Yards	4/37	8/53
Punt Returns/Yards	2/18	0/0
Kick Returns/Yards	2/57	5/87
Interception Ret./Yards	0/0	0/0
2pt Conversions	0/0	0/0
Red Zone Visits	3	4
- Red Zone TDs/FGs	3/0	2/1
Avg. Drive Start	OWN 32	OWN 25
Time of Possession	33:09	26:51

Drive Charts

New Orleans Saints
Quar	Began	Poss	From	Plays	Yards	Result
1	15:00	5:07	OWN 41	8	59	Touchdown
1	7:40	1:31	OWN 13	4	18	Punt
1	5:56	0:56	OPP 7	3	7	Touchdown
1	2:55	3:02	OWN 3	7	37	Punt
2	7:11	5:18	OWN 28	11	52	Field Goal
3	10:26	3:09	OWN 25	6	75	Touchdown
3	4:52	2:41	OPP 40	4	15	Field Goal
4	15:00	3:25	OWN 31	6	42	Field Goal
4	7:33	3:58	OWN 25	6	37	Punt
4	1:49	1:49	OWN 10	5	28	Game

Green Bay Packers
Quar	Began	Poss	From	Plays	Yards	Result
1	9:53	2:13	OWN 21	3	9	Punt
1	6:09	0:13	OWN 25	1	-4	Fumble
1	5:00	2:05	OWN 25	4	13	Punt
2	14:53	7:42	OWN 13	16	87	Touchdown
2	1:53	1:53	OWN 22	6	45	Missed FG
3	15:00	4:34	OWN 15	9	74	Field Goal
3	7:17	2:25	OWN 16	3	-10	Punt
3	2:11	2:11	OWN 22	3	-2	Punt
4	11:35	4:02	OWN 26	10	74	Touchdown
4	3:35	1:46	OPP 32	8	22	Downs

Game MVP: Trevor Lawrence, New Orleans Saints

Rushing Statistics

New Orleans	Att	Yards	Avg	LG	10+
RB Ezekiel Forsberg	16	86	5.38	20	4
RB Mercury Trainor	12	53	4.42	20	3
QB Trevor Lawrence	2	12	6.00	13	1
WR Ja'Marr Chase	1	6	6.00	6	0
FB Scott Wolf	1	1	1.00	1	0

Green Bay	Att	Yards	Avg	LG	10+	TD
QB Kaleb Small	9	59	6.56	11	1	0

Passing Statistics

New Orleans	Att	Comp	Yards	Sk/Yd	TD	LG	Int	Rate
Trevor Lawrence	28	21	227	0/0	3	42	0	134.0

Green Bay	Att	Comp	Yards	Sk/Yd	TD	LG	Int	Rate
Kaleb Small	49	33	315	5/33	2	29	0	98.6

Receiving Statistics

New Orleans	Catch	Targ	Yards	Avg	YAC	LG	TD
WR Ja'Marr Chase	5	6	54	10.80	39	16	1
WR Elias Shipp	4	4	32	8.00	8	16	0
WR Max Ta'Amu	3	6	70	23.33	24	42	0
RB Mercury Trainor	3	4	34	11.33	18	16	0
WR Mario McConnell	2	2	17	8.50	1	13	1
TE Geoff Weese	2	2	12	6.00	0	6	1
TE Kylen Granson	1	2	3	3.00	0	3	0
RB Ezekiel Forsberg	1	2	5	5.00	5	5	0

Green Bay	Catch	Targ	Yards	Avg	YAC	LG	TD
WR Darius Gomez	9	10	68	7.56	13	18	1
WR Denzel Carrico	5	9	50	10.00	4	29	0
WR R.C. Owens Jr	5	6	40	8.00	10	14	0
WR Carter Lake	4	5	29	7.25	16	15	0
TE Steven Berry	3	3	23	7.67	2	16	0
TE Tommy Tremble	2	4	42	21.00	23	24	0
TE Keegan Lincoln	2	5	31	15.50	12	25	1
WR Cooper Schulz	2	2	13	6.50	2	13	0
WR Dakota Carr	1	3	19	19.00	5	19	0
RB Vince Bensen	0	1	0	0.00	0	0	0
WR Frank Giroux	0	1	0	0.00	0	0	0

Interception Statistics

New Orleans	Ints	Yards	Avg	TD

Green Bay	Ints	Yards	Avg	TD

Fumble Statistics

New Orleans	Recov	Force
DT Logan Hall	1	0
OLB David Jordan	0	1
DT Alexander Karras	0	1

Green Bay	Fumb	Recov	Force	TD
QB Kaleb Small	2	0	0	0
TE Tommy Tremble	0	1	0	0

Punting Statistics

New Orleans	Punt	Yards	Avg	Net	LG	In20
Luther Perzul	3	91	30.3	30.3	47	1

Green Bay	Punt	Yards	Avg	Net	LG	In20
Tristan Canada	4	205	51.3	46.8	61	2

Kicking Statistics

New Orleans	FGs	40+Yd	50+Yd	LG	PAT
Wally Banks	3/3	2/2	0/0	44	3/3

Green Bay	FGs	40+Yd	50+Yd	LG	PAT
Clayton Jacobs	1/2	0/1	0/1	28	2/2

Punt Return Statistics

New Orleans	Ret	Yards	Avg	TD
JT Woods	2	18	9.0	0

Green Bay	Ret	Yards	Avg	TD

Kick Return Statistics

New Orleans	Ret	Yards	Avg	TD
Amari Rodgers	2	57	28.5	0

Green Bay	Ret	Yards	Avg	TD
Gino Tallent	5	87	17.4	0

Defensive Statistics

New Orleans	Tack	Asst	Sack	RPlay	PPlay
CB Ed Robinson	7	0	0.0	7	47
OLB Logan Evans	4	0	1.0	5	38
S Gregory Voss	4	3	0.0	6	27
S JT Woods	4	1	0.0	8	48
CB Duane Magnotta	4	0	0.0	5	36
CB Steven Kaplan	3	1	0.0	5	34
CB AJ Terrell	3	0	0.0	2	9
CB Toby Rhodes	3	0	0.0	3	11
DT Alexander Karras	2	0	1.5	6	39
ILB Tyler Foster	2	0	1.0	3	14
OLB David Jordan	2	2	0.5	5	31
ILB Todd Booker	2	2	0.0	5	37
OLB Adam Dorsey	2	0	0.0	4	20
DE Adetokunbo Ogundeji	1	0	1.0	6	18
ILB Nathaniel Barker	1	2	0.0	6	25
DE Jerome Kerr	1	0	0.0	6	40
S Rusty Blake	0	1	0.0	1	9
S Josiah Shepherd	0	1	0.0	5	35

Green Bay	Tack	Asst	Sack	RPlay	PPlay
OLB Winfred Diaz	7	0	0.0	32	28
CB Kendall Atkins	6	0	0.0	32	28
CB Kendall Garcia	5	0	0.0	17	24
DT J.R. Falcon	4	3	0.0	30	18
S Jahan Dotson	4	1	0.0	31	18
DT Gerald Burns	4	0	0.0	27	20
DE Mercury Zimmerman	4	0	0.0	28	16
ILB Devante Heck	3	1	0.0	15	4
CB Phillip Roever	3	0	0.0	16	14
ILB Terrence Gouveia	2	3	0.0	15	4
OLB Francisco Ackerman	2	1	0.0	18	24
CB Andre Taylor	2	0	0.0	15	12
OLB Van Craig	1	2	0.0	17	24
TE Tommy Tremble	1	0	---	---	---
S Marcus Trufant	1	0	0.0	18	24
DT Rex Osborne	1	0	0.0	9	14
S Earl Andersen	0	1	0.0	16	16

Pass Rush Statistics

New Orleans	Sack	Block	Hurry	Knock	PPlay
DT Alexander Karras	1.5	0	0	0	39
ILB Tyler Foster	1.0	0	1	0	14
OLB Logan Evans	1.0	0	0	1	38
DE Adetokunbo Ogundeji	1.0	0	0	0	18
OLB David Jordan	0.5	0	0	0	31
DT Logan Hall	0.0	1	2	0	33
DE Jerome Kerr	0.0	0	2	0	40
DE Kevin Mahoney	0.0	0	1	2	22

Green Bay	Hurry	PPlay
OLB Van Craig	1	24
DT Rex Osborne	1	14
DT J.R. Falcon	1	18

Pass Defense Statistics

New Orleans	Caught	Defnsd	PPlay
CB Ed Robinson	6	0	47
S JT Woods	5	0	48
S Gregory Voss	4	0	27
CB Steven Kaplan	3	1	34
OLB Logan Evans	3	0	38
CB Duane Magnotta	3	0	36
CB AJ Terrell	2	0	9
ILB Todd Booker	2	0	37
CB Toby Rhodes	2	0	11
DE Jerome Kerr	1	0	40
OLB David Jordan	1	0	31
OLB Adam Dorsey	1	0	20
DT Rex Trabosh	0	1	15

Green Bay	Caught	Defnsd	PPlay
CB Kendall Atkins	6	0	28
CB Phillip Roever	3	0	14
OLB Winfred Diaz	2	1	28
CB Kendall Garcia	2	0	24
OLB Francisco Ackerman	2	0	24
DE Mercury Zimmerman	2	0	16
S Marcus Trufant	1	0	24
DT Gerald Burns	1	0	20
DT Rex Osborne	1	0	14
CB Andre Taylor	1	0	12
S Jahan Dotson	0	1	18

Blocking Statistics

New Orleans	KeyBl	BlOpp	Panc	RPly	PPly
C Cam Jurgens	6	13	1	32	28
T Eli Broadhurst	5	8	0	32	28
G Sammy Pham	2	4	0	32	28
T Caiden Maloney	1	1	0	32	28
G Max Elliot	0	4	0	32	28

Green Bay	RPly	SckA	PPly
T Ryan Nafis	9	3	54
T Tony Small	9	1	54
C Jose Wolf	9	1	54

Special Teams Tackles

New Orleans	Tackles	STPlays
Max Ta'Amu	2	21
AJ Terrell	2	19
Amari Rodgers	1	11

Green Bay	Tackles	STPlays
Francisco Ackerman	2	21
Earl Andersen	1	21
Frank Giroux	1	8

Participation

New Orleans	RPlyOff	PPlyOff	RPlyDef	PPlyDef	STPly	Total Plays
WR Max Ta'Amu	21	24	---	---	21	66
G Max Elliot	32	28	---	---	6	66
T Eli Broadhurst	32	28	---	---	6	66
G Sammy Pham	32	28	---	---	6	66
T Caiden Maloney	32	28	---	---	6	66
S JT Woods	---	---	8	48	8	64
QB Trevor Lawrence	32	28	---	---	---	60
C Cam Jurgens	32	28	---	---	---	60
WR Ja'Marr Chase	28	28	---	---	1	57
CB Ed Robinson	---	---	7	47	1	55
TE Kylen Granson	26	22	---	---	1	49
RB Ezekiel Forsberg	19	14	---	---	16	49
DT Alexander Karras	---	---	6	39	4	49
WR Elias Shipp	20	23	---	---	4	47
DE Jerome Kerr	---	---	6	40	1	47
OLB Logan Evans	---	---	5	38	2	45
S Gregory Voss	---	---	6	27	12	45
ILB Todd Booker	---	---	5	37	1	43
CB Duane Magnotta	---	---	5	36	1	42
CB Steven Kaplan	---	---	5	34	2	41
S Josiah Shepherd	---	---	5	35	1	41
ILB Nathaniel Barker	---	---	6	25	9	40
OLB David Jordan	---	---	5	31	4	40
OLB Adam Dorsey	---	---	4	20	16	40
FB Scott Wolf	13	6	---	---	18	37
DT Logan Hall	---	---	3	33	1	37
TE Daniel Bellinger	8	3	---	---	20	31
CB AJ Terrell	---	---	2	9	19	30
DE Adetokunbo Ogundeji	---	---	6	18	5	29
DE Kevin Mahoney	---	---	4	22	1	27
RB Mercury Trainor	12	14	---	---	1	27
S Rusty Blake	---	---	1	9	13	23
DT Rex Trabosh	---	---	3	15	2	20
ILB Tyler Foster	---	---	3	14	---	17
TE Geoff Weese	11	4	---	---	---	15
CB Toby Rhodes	---	---	3	11	1	15
WR Amari Rodgers	0	0	---	---	11	11
WR Grayson Clawson	0	0	---	---	10	10
K Wally Banks	0	0	---	---	10	10
S Maurice Kerr	---	---	1	6	---	7
C Frankie Gayle	0	0	---	---	6	6
P Luther Perzul	0	0	---	---	6	6
WR Mario McConnell	2	2	---	---	---	4
QB Roman Chatham	0	0	---	---	---	0
G Gabriel Greene	0	0	---	---	---	0
T Marlon Kaplan	0	0	---	---	---	0

Green Bay	RPlyOff	PPlyOff	RPlyDef	PPlyDef	STPly	Total Plays
OLB Winfred Diaz	---	---	32	28	11	71
G Jonah Csonka	9	54	---	---	6	69
G Jackson Carman	9	54	---	---	6	69
C Jose Wolf	9	54	---	---	6	69
QB Kaleb Small	9	54	---	---	2	65
T Ryan Nafis	9	54	---	---	---	63
T Tony Small	9	54	---	---	---	63
CB Kendall Atkins	---	---	32	28	3	63
OLB Francisco Ackerman	---	---	18	24	21	63
CB Kendall Garcia	---	---	17	24	17	58
S Earl Andersen	---	---	16	16	21	53
S Jahan Dotson	---	---	31	18	4	53
WR Denzel Carrico	8	42	---	---	---	50
RB Mark Becker	2	27	---	---	20	49
TE Keegan Lincoln	4	24	---	---	20	48
WR Darius Gomez	6	27	---	---	15	48
DT J.R. Falcon	---	---	30	18	---	48
DT Gerald Burns	---	---	27	20	---	47
S Marcus Trufant	---	---	18	24	3	45
OLB Van Craig	---	---	17	24	3	44
WR R.C. Owens Jr	5	30	---	---	9	44
DE Mercury Zimmerman	---	---	28	16	---	44
RB Vince Bensen	3	15	---	---	16	34
TE Steven Berry	5	29	---	---	---	34
CB Phillip Roever	---	---	16	14	3	33
TE Tommy Tremble	4	28	---	---	---	32
CB Andre Taylor	---	---	15	12	3	30
ILB Terrence Gouveia	---	---	15	4	10	29
DT Rex Osborne	---	---	9	14	6	29
DE Danny Isakson	---	---	14	10	3	27
ILB Devante Heck	---	---	15	4	---	19
WR Frank Giroux	1	9	---	---	8	18
WR Dakota Carr	1	14	---	---	---	15
DT DeAndre Moffitt	---	---	0	8	5	13
WR Gino Tallent	1	4	---	---	7	12
WR Carter Lake	1	8	---	---	2	11
RB Griffin Von Wyss	3	8	---	---	---	11
WR Cooper Schulz	1	5	---	---	---	6
K Clayton Jacobs	0	0	---	---	6	6
G Dana Martinez	0	0	---	---	6	6
C Cristian Hartman	0	0	---	---	6	6
DT Todd Barber	---	---	2	2	1	5
P Tristan Canada	0	0	---	---	4	4
QB Mackenzie Ward	0	0	---	---	---	0
T Charlie Porter	0	0	---	---	---	0
ILB Norm Tatum	---	---	0	0	---	0

Directional Rushing Statistics

Distance	Att	Yards	Avg
Left	6	43	7.2
Middle	18	55	3.1
Right	7	61	8.7
None	1	-1	-1.0

Distance	Att	Yards	Avg
Left	0	0	0.0
Middle	9	59	6.6
Right	0	0	0.0
None	0	0	0.0

Detailed Passing Statistics

New Orleans	Att	Cmp	20+	BdTh	Drop	Dfns	Hurr	Knck	Intc
Trevor Lawrence	28	21	2	1	1	2	3	0	0

Green Bay	Att	Cmp	20+	BdTh	Drop	Dfns	Hurr	Knck	Intc
Kaleb Small	49	33	3	3	4	2	6	3	0

Directional Passing Statistics

Distance	Att	Comp	Yards	Avg
Screen	4	4	44	11.0
Short (0-8 Yds)	15	11	87	5.8
Medium (9-18 Yds)	7	5	76	10.9
Long (19+ Yds)	2	1	20	10.0

Distance	Att	Comp	Yards	Avg
Screen	14	9	40	2.9
Short (0-8 Yds)	13	11	79	6.1
Medium (9-18 Yds)	19	12	167	8.8
Long (19+ Yds)	3	1	29	9.7

Detailed Receiving Statistics

New Orleans	Targt	Caugt	Dropd	Yards	20+	PPlay
WR Max Ta'Amu	6	3	1	70	2	24
WR Ja'Marr Chase	6	5	0	54	0	28
WR Elias Shipp	4	4	0	32	0	23
RB Mercury Trainor	4	3	0	34	0	14
TE Kylen Granson	2	1	0	3	0	22
WR Mario McConnell	2	2	0	17	0	2
TE Geoff Weese	2	2	0	12	0	4
RB Ezekiel Forsberg	2	1	0	5	0	14

Green Bay	Targt	Caugt	Dropd	Yards	20+	PPlay
WR Darius Gomez	10	9	0	68	0	27
WR Denzel Carrico	9	5	1	50	1	42
WR R.C. Owens Jr	6	5	1	40	0	30
TE Keegan Lincoln	5	2	1	31	1	24
WR Carter Lake	5	4	0	29	0	8
TE Tommy Tremble	4	2	1	42	1	28
TE Steven Berry	3	3	0	23	0	29
WR Dakota Carr	3	1	0	19	0	14
WR Cooper Schulz	2	2	0	13	0	5
RB Vince Bensen	1	0	0	0	0	15
WR Frank Giroux	1	0	0	0	0	9

Red-Zone Rushing Statistics

New Orleans	Att	Yards	Avg	Overall Avg
RB Mercury Trainor	2	-1	-0.50	4.42
RB Ezekiel Forsberg	2	-3	-1.50	5.38
WR Ja'Marr Chase	1	6	6.00	6.00

Green Bay	Att	Yards	Avg	Overall Avg
QB Kaleb Small	1	4	4.00	6.56

Red-Zone Passing Statistics

New Orleans	Att	Comp	Yards	Avg/Att	Overall Avg
Trevor Lawrence	4	4	34	8.50	8.11

Green Bay	Att	Comp	Yards	Avg/Att	Overall Avg
Kaleb Small	9	5	33	3.67	6.43

Red-Zone Receiving Statistics

New Orleans	Target	Catch	Yards	Avg/Targ	Overall Avg
WR Ja'Marr Chase	1	1	10	10.00	9.00
WR Mario McConnell	1	1	13	13.00	8.50
TE Geoff Weese	1	1	6	6.00	6.00
RB Ezekiel Forsberg	1	1	5	5.00	2.50

Green Bay	Target	Catch	Yards	Avg/Targ	Overall Avg
TE Keegan Lincoln	2	1	6	3.00	6.20
WR Darius Gomez	2	2	14	7.00	6.80
TE Tommy Tremble	1	0	0	0.00	10.50
RB Vince Bensen	1	0	0	0.00	0.00
TE Steven Berry	1	1	8	8.00	7.67
WR Carter Lake	1	1	5	5.00	5.80
WR Dakota Carr	1	0	0	0.00	6.33

Third Down Rushing Statistics

New Orleans	Rushes	Conversions
RB Mercury Trainor	2	1

Green Bay	Rushes	Conversions
QB Kaleb Small	3	0

Third Down Passing Statistics

New Orleans	Att	Comp	Conversions
Trevor Lawrence	10	8	5

Green Bay	Att	Comp	Conversions
Kaleb Small	10	9	6

Third Down Receiving Statistics

New Orleans	Targ	Catch	Conversions
WR Max Ta'Amu	3	2	1
WR Ja'Marr Chase	3	2	1
RB Mercury Trainor	2	2	1
WR Mario McConnell	1	1	1
TE Geoff Weese	1	1	1

Green Bay	Targ	Catch	Conversions
WR Darius Gomez	3	3	3
TE Tommy Tremble	1	1	1
WR Denzel Carrico	1	1	0
TE Keegan Lincoln	1	1	1
WR Cooper Schulz	1	1	0
RB Vince Bensen	1	0	0
TE Steven Berry	1	1	1
WR Carter Lake	1	1	0

Section Attendance
Stadium 70,000 (70,000 capacity)
Upper Deck 21,200 (21,200)
End Zone 15,300 (15,300)
Mezzanine 8,800 (8,800)
Sideline Seats 13,500 (13,500)
Club Seats 7,700 (7,700)
Luxury Boxes 3,500 (3,500)

Section	Attendance
Stadium	70,000 (70,000 capacity)
Upper Deck	21,200 (21,200)
End Zone	15,300 (15,300)
Mezzanine	8,800 (8,800)
Sideline Seats	13,500 (13,500)
Club Seats	7,700 (7,700)
Luxury Boxes	3,500 (3,500)